Like Geer, Gary has a unique
view of the security world, one that is informed by his background in
cognitive science and philosophy. He just doesn’t come at questions or
problems the way that most people do, and that makes for interesting
conversations. Gary’s among the top experts on software security, but
he’s just as happy to steer the conversation to philosophy,
barn-building or music, and then bring it all back to security and tie
it up in a package. That is non-trivial.